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It’s no secret that Michelle Obama has captured the hearts and minds of many Americans during her tenure as First Lady of the United States. According to her husband, however, this doesn’t mean she’ll run for the highest office in the land.

In an interview with Rolling Stone, President Barack Obama—gotta squeeze that phrase in as many times as possible while we still can—told the publication that his wife won’t try for the presidency.

“Michelle will never run for office. She is as talented a person as I know. You can see the incredible resonance she has with the American people,” he said. “But I joke that she’s too sensible to want to be in politics.”

Now, with as unique a political climate as we currently find ourselves in, it’s hard to definitively say “never,” but Barry isn’t leaving us much wiggle room here to convince ourselves otherwise.

However, he did say that he and Michelle will be “very active” in politics after they leave 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. at the grassroots level. More years of drooling over her biceps from afar? Yes, please.

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