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player ready...Ashley Pouncey, nee Price, testified Tuesday that she didn’t remember large parts of what happened the night her now-husband allegedly killed her sister, brother-in-law and paralyzed her other sister’s fiancé.
“I don’t know,” she said when Deputy Prosecutor Maureen Koonce asked point-blank who killed her sister Klorya (Price) Matthews, 32, of Hammond. “I’m not sure. I didn’t see the autopsy report.”
Derrick Pouncey, 37, is on trial, charged with a half-dozen felonies, including two counts of murder and one count of attempted murder, two misdemeanor battery counts, plus multiple gun enhancements in the deaths of Klorya and her husband Kyle Matthews, 31.
The other sister’s fiancé, Malieke Thomas, 55, died from his injuries on Nov. 18.
Pouncey has pleaded not guilty, saying he was defending himself from the trio.
In adversarial testimony, Ashley, 29, repeatedly sparred with Deputy Prosecutor Maureen Koonce, accusing her of repeating questions or asking for irrelevant details.
Lake County records show Ashley and Pouncey obtained a marriage license in July 2024 — three months after the killings. They have since had another child. He was arrested and charged in December 2024.
On the stand, she testified they married “sometime” last year.
Ashley said she knew Thomas had a gun “almost in his hand,” she saw after he was wounded on the lawn.
Did Derrick have a gun, Koonce asked.
“I don’t recall,” Ashley replied.
“You’re under oath,” Koonce told her.
The police, Ashley later said, were “coaching me” to provide information.
“You should do the right thing, this is your sister,” she recalled they said.
She claimed she and Derrick weren’t talking around the time of the trial. She hoped to live together if he got acquitted.
On the night of the shootings, Ashley said she bit her lip and hit her head. She demurred on the stand when asked if Derrick hurt her finger that evening. She was working as a certified nursing assistant and lost a probationary job just after the killings, she testified.
On cross-examination, she told defense lawyer John Cantrell she believed that Klorya and Kyle showed up unexpectedly, and she tried to block them from coming through the doorway.
Around 3 a.m. on April 10, 2024, Gary police responded to the scene at the 2000 block of Roosevelt Street, where two people — Kyle and Klorya Matthews — had been shot to death, according to the probable cause affidavit.
Upon arrival, police found the front glass door open and shattered and there was glass everywhere. Near the door, they found a third victim who was still alive, along with 29 7.62mm caliber casings, 5 .45mm casings and a large pool of blood nearby, records state.
In earlier testimony Tuesday, Dr. Cynthia Galvan of Methodist Hospitals said Thomas was so seriously wounded that they called the University of Chicago to get him airlifted within “nine minutes” of his arrival.
Later on the stand Tuesday, Ashley Pouncey’s son, 12, appeared to be a reluctant witness when he said he didn’t know who the shooter was.
Did your mom talk to you about your testimony, Deputy Prosecutor Lindsey Lanham asked. What did she tell you?
“I don’t think that is necessary,” he replied.
Did she tell you to omit anything?
The boy shrugged. He appeared more forthcoming in a May 2024 special victims unit interview that prosecutors played.
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The grandfather, Alvin Price, testified Monday that he took custody of the children for several months after the shooting when the Indiana Department of Child Services opened a case. Ashley eventually regained custody.
The boy said in the video he was outside and ran when the shooting happened.
“He killed my uncle, then killed my tete,” the boy said on the tape, of Derrick.
“He was just shooting till everybody dead in the house,” the boy said later.
If you weren’t there, what made you think Derrick was the shooter, the interviewer asked on the video.
“He had a gun,” the boy said.
On cross-examination, he told Cantrell he was repeating things he heard his family members, like his surviving aunt, say.
He denied calling an aunt to come get him that evening.
The trial continues this week.