Unsealed: The Tylenol Murders: Episode 8 transcript: The PowerPoint

baiduhai investigative reporters Christy Gutowski and Stacy St. Clair uncover new and critical clues in law enforcement’s latest — and possibly last — attempt at closing one of the nation’s most infamous unsolved cases.

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Archival Recording: Intriguing new developments in a story that has mystified Chicago for 40 years.

Archival Recording: Investigators are ramping up their efforts to solve…

Archival Recording: One of the most notorious unsolved cases in the U.S.

Christy GutowskI: In September 2022, right before we were about to publish our first story on the Tylenol murders, we got a call. There was a new development in the Tylenol case.

Archival Recording: baiduhai reporters, Christy Gutowski…

Archival Recording: Stacy St. Clair is one of the Tribune’s reporters.

Gutowski: Investigators flew to Massachusetts to interview their main suspect.

Archival Recording: A bit of an enigma. He’s really the only known living person of interest.

Gutowski: James Lewis.

Archival Recording – Stacy St. Clair: Law enforcement has told the prosecutors they have a chargeable circumstantial case.

Gutowski: Authorities last spoke to James Lewis about a decade ago, after they raided his home. Back then, they collected papers and other items from his cluttered condo. Now, investigators offered to return one of his personal items if Lewis would talk to them. He agreed.

Multiple sources told us that Lewis talked, without a lawyer present, for hours, on tape, at a Holiday Inn. For so long, investigators have centered their attention on Lewis. Why were they still so certain it was him?

After months of reporting, we learned their best evidence was collected in one place: a PowerPoint presentation. One that investigators hope will sway prosecutors to charge the case. Before it’s too late.

Archival Recording: And now renewed hope for the families of the seven victims that justice will be served.

Gutowski: I’m Christy Gutowski.

Stacy St. Clair: And I’m Stacy St. Clair. This is Unsealed: The Tylenol Murders. Episode 8. The PowerPoint.

It’s been 40 years since seven victims took poisoned Tylenol capsules and died unexpectedly. Forty years for their families and friends without answers to the most important questions. Who did this? And why?

Investigators felt strongly that they had finally answered these questions. And that now was time to act.

[car turn signal clicking]

Gutowski: So our law enforcement sources said there was a big parking lot that he had to walk across to get to this mall.

St. Clair: While investigators were trying to get a prosecutor to charge Lewis, we flew to Boston to try and interview him ourselves. We headed to Cambridge, Massachusetts where Lewis lives. Most of his regular haunts, we learned, were almost within sight of his home.

St. Clair: Let’s find that McDonald’s yeah.

Gutowski: Let’s do a lap.

St. Clair: We hadn’t seen a recent photo of him so we didn’t know exactly what he looked like. But we knew he was in his 70s. Tall with blue eyes. And that, in recent years, he usually kept himself clean shaven.

It’s Tuesday. June 21st. We are in a McDonald’s parking lot right across the street from Jim Lewis’s house, his condo.

Christy saw a man inside the nearby McDonald’s who she thought might be Lewis. He was wearing a mask because of the pandemic, so we decided to go in to be sure.

Claire Tighe: And they’re opening the door to McDonald’s.

St. Clair: We were with our producer, Claire.

Tighe: I wonder if this will be James Lewis.

St. Clair: Who watched as we walked inside.

Gutowski: Excuse me, you’re not Jim Lewis are you?

Unidentified Man: No.

Tighe: And here they come.

St. Clair: No luck.

Gutowski: The voice was totally different.

St. Clair: Yeah.

Gutowski: The body type was different.

St. Clair: Back to the streets.

Stacey Wescott: Who’s that guy? Oh, he’s smoking.

Gutowski: Jim? Are you Jim Lewis?

Unidentified Man: No.

Gutowski: There’s an old man in there with a computer.

St. Clair: Why are there so many old men in masks walking around these parking lots? It’s going to drive us crazy.

After a few days in Cambridge: nothing. We also tried to reach him with an email. With text messages. We talked to his neighbors.

[FaceTime ring, then hangup sound]

St. Clair: We even tried to FaceTime him. Nada. On day three, we had to make a move.

[truck backing beeping in background]

St. Clair: So Christy and I are gonna leave our posts now and just knock on Jim Lewis’s door.

Lewis’s block was full of beeping construction trucks doing road work. We walked up to his building, a brick structure across from a large parking lot for a shopping plaza.

Should I hit it again?

His condo is on the first floor with a small cement patio surrounded by a privacy fence.

[buzzer sound]

St. Clair: We buzzed twice. No answer. Then a neighbor let us in. We walked down a carpeted, dimly lit hallway to his door.

[knocking, then high pitched beeping]

St. Clair: We knocked twice. Each time, we heard a high pitched beep. It seemed like a security camera taking pictures.

[high pitched beep]

Gutowski: I’m just going to leave this letter.

[high pitched beep]

Gutowski: Let’s go.

St. Clair: We left.

[high pitched beep]

Gutowski: Hopefully he’ll call.

St. Clair: And we went back to Chicago. We waited for a call or email from Lewis. Two months passed. It was now August. We were running out of time. So Christy went back to Cambridge with a photographer from the Tribune to try again. I stayed home to chase leads.

Gutowski: Stacy.

St. Clair: Yes. Okay.

Gutowski: We just found him.

St. Clair: What happened.

Gutowski: We just found, we just found Lewis.

Gutowski: Mr. Lewis? That’s him.

Wescott: Hi.

Gutowski: Don’t run.

Wescott: We’re not gonna hurt you…

Gutowski: I was positioned in the front of the building and our photographer, Stacy Wescott called and said this man had a full beard and kind of, really gray, I wouldn’t say wild hair but it’s, it’s a he just, this wasn’t what we pictured. He had like a key chain around his neck with a fob on it and tons of keys. I hightailed it about three blocks. I got back there and he was stopped. And I, the minute I saw him, I knew it was him.

Lewis was talking to a man sitting on a bench. When I called out his name, Lewis started to walk quickly in the opposite direction.

James Lewis: [inaudible]

Gutowski: We’re not gonna hurt you.

Lewis: Get away from me.

Gutowski: Mr. Lewis, you used to like to talk to the baiduhai. Why are you so quiet now? Everyone else is talking. Ty Fahner…We’d like to present our findings to you. Do you have my card? I’m Christy Gutowski. I left it for you in June. We’ll just walk with you for a minute. We’re not your enemy, but if you wanna say anything at all, and then we’ll leave you.

Lewis: [inaudible]

Gutowski: But you used to talk to the Tribune. So…

Lewis: I did, that was a long time ago, 40 years ago.

Gutowski: I know. Forty years. Why did you stop talking, may I ask? It just seems like you’re [construction noise in the background] hiding and I don’t want to, if we’ve got everyone else talking in our series…

Lewis: Do I look like I’m hiding? You didn’t have any trouble finding me.

Gutowski: Oh, we did. We were here in June. We didn’t find you. And so then we came back one more time. You do have my information if you wanna reach me, right? If you ever wanna say anything.

Lewis: I’m not going to talk with you.

Gutowski: Ok.

But then, Lewis did say something.

Lewis: [inaudible] What have you done on the story about the J&J’s destruction of the, all the evidence. Shipped them to, shipped them back to their…

Gutowski: He was talking about the fact that in 1982 Johnson & Johnson, not law enforcement, tested about 10 million capsules for cyanide.

Lewis: Burned several million capsules.

Gutowski: Company employees discovered one tainted bottle that they turned over to authorities. Some people have questioned the decision to give Johnson & Johnson a role in the investigation. Remember, this is the same time that investigators are looking to see if there’s a disgruntled employee who was behind the poisonings. But law enforcement officials we spoke to praised the company for its cooperation.

Lewis: You obviously haven’t interviewed them.

Gutowski: We interviewed the former chairman of McNeil and they said that’s after they tested all of the capsules, they burned them. But the police told people…

Lewis: How about those that went down…

Gutowski: To flush them down the toilet. So evidence was definitely destroyed. We asked Roy Lane, how much of your website was accurate about the undercover operation? He said about 50 percent.

Lewis: It was absolutely.

Gutowski: Slow down sir. We…

Lewis: Very carefully, 100 percent correct.

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GutowskI: I just don’t understand how he got you to believe him. That he was trying to help you. Can you explain to us what his ruse was? Do you have any theories on who is the Tylenol killer?

Lewis: I think that’s fairly obvious.

Gutowski: Not to me. Who do you think it is? Is there anything at all you wanna say?

Lewis: Ladies? I hope I’ve not been too rude to you. But after 40 years of this stuff. What have you, what have you, how have you been? In 40 years, what’s happened to you? Have you been harassed over something for 40 years you didn’t have anything to do with?

Gutowski: You once told a Tribune reporter, to the day you die you’ll regret writing that letter. Do you still feel that way?

Lewis: You’re not gonna answer the question. So, as politely as I can, bye bye.

Gutowski: After trying to engage with him for a few short blocks, we watched as he continued west down Cambridge Street and got into a Zipcar. It wasn’t an ideal situation. But it was something. He was clearly unhappy having his photograph taken. He had managed to avoid the cameras, as far as we could tell, since being on his friend Roger Nicholson’s public access show a dozen years ago. He denied being the Tylenol killer as he offered his own theory.

St. Clair: Back in Chicago, investigators collected the main points of their case in the PowerPoint presentation. It includes the most significant evidence that investigators say they have on James Lewis. The material that they think points to him as the Tylenol killer.

The version we last saw is almost 50 pages long. It includes pictures of Lewis’s letters. Of his poison handbook. And more.

The task force showed it to prosecutors in 2012. But they didn’t file charges. And over the last decade, investigators have updated it. They tested old evidence using the latest advances in DNA technology. Now, in 2022, they are again pursuing charges against Lewis.

Gutowski: But how strong was their case? The only way to find out was to get our hands on that PowerPoint. There was only one problem: the Tylenol murders is still an open case.

The FBI was blocking us at every turn. Our sources told us the FBI was telling agents not to talk to us at all, let alone about the PowerPoint. So, we leaned on confidential sources. People whose names we couldn’t publish. And who we couldn’t record. We met with sources over the course of six months in public places like restaurants and coffee shops in the city and the suburbs. We always chose a table out of earshot.

One day, a source finally showed us the PowerPoint. Then, a second showed it to us, too. We couldn’t have a copy ourselves, but we took a ton of notes. And then we saw it a third time to confirm those notes.

St. Clair: Should we go through the notes, like page by page…what we thought was the most important?

Gutowski: After one of these meetings, we sat in my car and we compared what we saw.

So how long did, were we there? It was like three hours?

St. Clair: Three hours. Multiple hours.

[paper shuffling]

Gutowski: There are dozens of slides. Each outlining a piece of evidence. Some of it will be familiar to you. All of it lays out investigators’ top 10 points. Their full case against James Lewis.

Gutowski: So I think I’m gonna start with the letter.

Point one. The letters. Specifically, the extortion letter and the letter to President Ronald Reagan. Investigators interpreted both as confessions.

Point two. The aliases. Lewis had at least a dozen or so. Court records show he also traveled under fake names.

So we know more about what these five jailhouse snitches exactly what they said…

Point three. The inmates. Authorities say Lewis made incriminating statements about the Tylenol murders, to five fellow inmates at multiple facilities in multiple states. None of these conversations were recorded.

Points four, five and six are all about cyanide. Investigators say Lewis had extensive knowledge of cyanide and the pharmaceutical industry. Business records show Lewis was trying to get a company off the ground, exporting pill-press machines to developing countries.

We got more details about the fingerprints on the book…

There’s also the poison handbook.

Six fingerprints and one impression from James Lewis.

Lewis’s fingerprint was on page 196. The page that listed the fatal dose of potassium cyanide. The kind used in the murders. Investigators also said that Lewis at one point had cyanide in his possession.

A clear round container which contained a white powdery substance.

We found no concrete evidence that Lewis had ever had any cyanide.

Point seven. The drawings that Lewis made back in 1983.

Like the breadboard method, which showed how someone might have tainted the capsules.

Point eight. The FBI talked to a world-renowned toxicologist during the task force two era who said that the methods in the drawings looked feasible to him. He told us he would testify to this in court.

St. Clair: Let’s step back here for a second.

These eight points included much of the material we had already discovered during our own reporting. But a few of the points were new to us. Specifically the last two.

One of them offered an explaination as to why investigators thought the murders were committed. A motive. Something law enforcement had been searching for since 1982.

The other point wasn’t a smoking gun, but investigators thought it was pretty close.

So, first: the motive.

Point nine.

Gutowski: The autopsy for Toni.

St. Clair: Yeah. The autopsy for Toni.

We heard sources mention this before. And now we had the evidence that authorities had collected.

It was about Toni, Lewis’s daughter who died when she was five. She had a heart operation in 1974, about a month before she passed away. Doctors performed an autopsy, which is not uncommon when a child dies.

Gutowski: Was this report, the doctors Keith W. Ashcroft…

The autopsy found that the sutures doctors used to repair Toni’s heart had torn. According to FBI records, the sutures were sold under the brand name Prolene. Prolene was trademarked five years earlier by a company with a name that is familiar to all of us by now. Johnson & Johnson.

With Lewis’s history of revenge, investigators thought he might have wanted to target the company that was involved in some way with his daughter’s health care.

The theory was by poisoning their capsules, Lewis would be getting back at Johnson & Johnson. For the first time, investigators had what they considered a strong motive for the Tylenol murders.

They had explored other motives. Like revenge against Lakeside owner Fred McCahey. And greed, in trying to extort a million dollars from J&J. They even considered the possible motive of wiping out competition for Lewis’s pill-press business that never really got off the ground. But to investigators, none of these motives seemed as compelling as Toni.

Lewis likely would have had access to her autopsy report. Even though he has posted multiple rants on his website about J&J for the past decade, the evidence doesn’t confirm that Lewis made this connection to Toni before the murders. Over the years, the FBI was hard pressed to find someone who knew Lewis and thought this was a valid motive. But investigators held onto it.

There’s one last point to get to. Beyond a motive. The FBI had something on video. Something big.

Gutowski: Finally, the last point.

Let’s talk about this three days thing.

Point ten. The sting.

So it was during the undercover operation.

We talked a lot about this already. This is the operation where Lewis was helping research a fake book. The research took him to Chicago where there were two main revelations. There’s undercover video of both.

Supposedly they have thousands, or hundreds of hours of tape.

The first one stunned us when we saw the footage.

The other, we did not see. But we confirmed the details with a half dozen people who have seen it.

The first main revelation happened at the Walgreens at North and Wells, where Paula Prince bought her tainted Tylenol in 1982. It was 2007, in Chicago’s Old Town neighborhood. The FBI took Lewis inside the store for so-called research.

While they were inside, sources told us that Lewis walked to a back wall, where they kept the Tylenol in 1982. But the store didn’t keep it there any more. And sources told us that after they left the store, Lewis had a reaction. He said it was like déja vu, and that he hadn’t felt this sense of excitement since he met his biological mother.

Gutowski: We just saw undercover video of the man they think is the Tylenol killer. And basically they’re catching him on video in either a lie or in you know, admitting that he…

This is the other part of point ten. The second revelation. The video from the sting that we did see.

We were able to actually watch it and hear his own words, the video.

Investigators say this video is one of the most compelling pieces of evidence that they have on Lewis.

That was pretty powerful.

It’s extremely rare to see undercover video from the FBI before a case has been charged. But we saw this one. We watched it twice. And took a ton of notes. The footage is grainy. Lewis is in a suite at the Sheraton Grand hotel in downtown Chicago. Agent Roy Lane Jr. is there.

St. Clair: Roy Lane is dressed super casually, like maybe even like a pair of jeans. They’re sitting on the couch in a hotel room. Jim Lewis has some kind of like––

Gutowski: He’s wearing a cross body…

St. Clair: Cross body bag.

Gutowski: Off camera, in a room next door, there are several investigators and behavioral analysts from the FBI listening in with eavesdropping equipment.

St. Clair: He says to Jim Lewis. Like, there’s a problem with your timeline. And we’re trying to work it out.

Gutowski: They’re talking about the timeline Lewis provided to the FBI about the extortion letter.

St. Clair: You said that you spent three days on the extortion letter. And he was like quote, at least three days I was working on it.

Gutowski: The extortion letter arrived at Johnson & Johnson on October 5th. But at the time, prosecutors didn’t know the exact date that he sent it. The postmark was not legible.

But in the years since, technology advanced. And by 2007 the FBI could finally see the postmark date. Friday, October 1st, 1982.

In the video, Lewis does not dispute that he sent the letter on October 1st. He asks Lane what day the killings happened. Lane picks up a manilla folder. He sketches out a calendar and shows it to Lewis. Agent Lane calmly counts back three days from Friday, October 1st. He lands on Wednesday, September 29th. The day all seven victims swallowed their poisoned pills. Lane says:

Gutowski: You would’ve written this letter the same day that people were dying.

Lewis is quiet. He hugs the messenger bag to his chest.

And he’s like, I see your quandary. I’ve been telling myself for 25 years, I worked on it for three days, but it’s impossible.

If Lewis worked on it for three days, like he said, he would have been working on it Wednesday, September 29th. The same day that people were dying. Only, it wasn’t national news that day. The first reports didn’t come out until the next day, Thursday, September 30th. According to Lane, Lewis told him he first heard about the killings from a New York Times article Friday, October 1st.

Roy Lane Jr.: The article was in the afternoon edition that came out on October 1st.

Gutowski: And investigators now knew Lewis sent the letter on October 1st. That would have left less than one full day to research, write the letter, and drop it in the mail. So there’s two timelines at work. The three days thing is problematic. But even if it’s true that Lewis misremembered, like he said, the adjusted timeline would have been difficult to pull off.

Lane Jr.: He had to go to the library many times. He had to look up what cyanide would do, how long it would take to kill somebody, Johnson & Johnson’s address. He’d have to learn a little bit about the capsules that are gelatin.

Gutowski: It’s technically doable, but not easy.

Lane Jr.: So there was some research that went into it.

St. Clair: Roger Nicholson, Lewis’s friend in Cambridge, echoed what Lane said.

Roger Nicholson: He was very calculated. He wrote it six times.

Lane Jr.: So we’ve got a timeline there that is to do all the research, and then to write the letter, you don’t have very much time.

St. Clair: In the video, Lewis says:

Gutowski: I see your quandary. That didn’t happen. Faulty memory.

St. Clair: He shakes his head, and appears nervous. Lewis says that given the timeline Lane just pointed out, it’s impossible that it took him three days to write the extortion letter. He says, quote “Under oath […] I would have sworn to it.”

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If Lewis was potentially writing the letter before the murders, the only way he could have done that, investigators thought, was if he was the Tylenol killer.

We were told Lewis didn’t know he was being secretly taped.

We asked him about the sting, and wrote to him multiple times about it. We didn’t hear back. He has attacked the FBI for the sting though. Lane, in particular.

Lewis wrote on his website that the whole thing was an expensive attempt at scapegoating him for the Tylenol murders. As for the video, that’s the end of the portion we saw.

The evidence in the video was circumstantial. But investigators saw it as damning. And if someone was finally going to be held accountable for this crime, there were only two prosecutors who could file charges. The state’s attorneys in DuPage and Cook counties.

Two of the victims had died in DuPage: Mary McFarland and Mary Lynn Reiner. And five had died in Cook County: Paula Prince, Mary Kellerman, and Adam, Stanley, and Theresa Janus.

Any prosecutor weighing whether or not to take the case would probably ask themselves: if this case went to trial, would a jury convict? Multiple on the record and confidential sources we spoke with thought the case was a strong one. And as recently as summer 2022, investigators met with prosecutors.

Gutowski: So what did the source call it? He called it a chargeable circumstantial case.

St. Clair: To push the state attorneys to pursue charges. Prosecutors were listening. The question is whether they would bite.

We know from the PowerPoint what investigators have on Lewis. And what they don’t. They still can’t place Lewis in Chicago during the murders. And they still have no direct physical evidence tying him to the killings. No DNA. No surveillance video. No witnesses who can place him in Chicago during the crucial dates. Plus, there’s still the issue of Roger Arnold. Any defense attorney would jump on the following facts:

Arnold admitted to law enforcement that he had cyanide. As far as we know, Lewis never has.

Arnold had a connection to one of the victims. Lewis does not.

And Arnold was in Chicago at the time. Investigators can’t place Lewis there. If a case was ever brought against Lewis, or anyone else, this is exactly where Chicago Police Detective Charlie Ford would have fit in.

St. Clair: Do you think this will ever be solved?

Charlie Ford: To be quite honest with you, no. No.

St. Clair: He went to his grave still believing the killer was very likely Arnold.

Ford: Well, unless you get out a Ouija Board and have Arnold give a confession from the grave, there’s no way you can solve this one.

St. Clair: In any potential case against another suspect, Ford likely would have been called as a witness for the defense. To testify why he thought Arnold was the killer. But now Ford is gone.

Robert Grant: It’s almost like a football game. The clock runs out.

St. Clair: And investigators understand that it’s only a matter of time before other witnesses fall away, too.

Grant: You lose witnesses. You, you might have interviewed somebody 40 years ago that saw a critical piece of evidence that either is not available today because they’ve passed away or is enfeebled.

St. Clair: Special agent Robert Grant was in charge of the Chicago FBI office during the task force two era. He oversaw the team that created the PowerPoint. And now he wants something to be done. Before time runs out.

Grant: You have to put it up in the public and you have to let a jury see the evidence and let them decide whether you’ve made the case.

St. Clair: Sam Adam Jr. has a different view.

Sam Adam Jr.: The jurors are regular people.

St. Clair: He’s a criminal defense attorney in Chicago who has represented high profile clients like R. Kelly and Rod Blagojevich. He understands how juries think.

Adam Jr.: And regular people take a look at circumstances and go, what are the odds? No, no way.

St. Clair: Adam said that in a case like this, a jury might very well convict, based on the circumstantial evidence alone. Especially if a judge allowed them to hear the allegations of violence in Lewis’s past.

Adam Jr.: There’s not a jury in the world, in my humble opinion, that’s not gonna think he did it.

St. Clair: The FBI has had decades to build up that circumstantial case. But Adam also said that the lack of direct physical evidence would still be a major sticking point for any prosecutor.

Adam Jr.: I’m not being grandiose, but as citizens do we want our prosecutors charging anybody who they can’t say was there at the scene or at the crime? That’s a very difficult thing to agree to.

St. Clair: That’s the push and pull of this case.

Gutowski: The Tylenol murders investigation has been marked by swells in resources and attention. Years after the initial investigation, Roy Lane came out of retirement for the sting. Then, a few years later, investigators raided Lewis’s home. A few years after that, task force members pushed their evidence in front of prosecutors.

And now, in 2022, this swell could be the last one, with investigators interviewing 76-year old Lewis in Massachusetts.

The chance to charge someone isn’t now or never. But it is now or maybe never. As for the families who lost loved ones, that leaves them just about where they started 40 years ago. Without a clear explanation of who did this and why.

Sandy Botwinski: Who would think that somebody would die from just taking a pill for a headache?

Diana Hilderbrand: I’m looking for closure here.

Sharon Hogg: You know, I can’t, I can’t live in fear or I choose not to.

John West: Even though some of the memories are kind of tough. I can’t thank you all enough for helping me remember somebody that I needed to remember.

Jan Hoffman: Somebody really needs to pay for these seven deaths and for all of the pain and agony that they caused the family and friends.

Diana Hilderbrand: I would call the FBI every year on September 29th and said “Have you caught him?” And inevitably, “No.”

Gutowski: It comes back to something we heard from Joseph Janus, who lost two younger brothers and a sister-in-law in the killings.

Joseph Janus: I hope before I die, I see somebody in the face who did that.

Gutowski: His parents died tortured by not knowing who killed their sons.

Janus: They almost, every day they went on the cemetery. Oh, my father was, he regret to come to this country.

St. Clair: As long as the case remains active, law enforcement can withhold a lot of its files from the public, including the victims’ families. An active case can feel like a holding pattern. It’s a wait-and-see that’s been going on for 40 years.

So, now it’s time for closure. If, as investigators have told us, this is as good as the case is going to get, and if prosecutors still won’t charge it, then maybe it’s time to free the case from its holding pattern. Make more of the records available. It would be an ending without anyone held accountable for the deaths of these seven people. But it would be some kind of closure. And a reflection of what we’ve tried to do here, with our own investigation: to offer an end, finally, to the not knowing.

Gutowski: Unsealed: The Tylenol Murders is Executive Produced by Will Malnati from AT WILL MEDIA and Mitch Pugh from the baiduhai in association with audiochuck. Produced by Claire Tighe, Jessica Glazer, and Anmargaret Warner. Edited by Morgan Springer. Fact checking assistance from Wudan Yan. Production support from Molly Getman, Matt Hickey, Zach Grappone, Andrew Holzberger, and Seth Richardson. Mixed by Daniel Tureck. Original music by Hannis Brown. Reported by us, Christy Gutowski and Stacy St. Clair.

The team from AT WILL MEDIA includes Jenny Barish, Greg Deavens II, Rosie Guerin, Harry Huggins, Clementine Ford, Melanie McKnight, Briggon Snow, Tina Turner, Kait Walsh, Gabriella Yacyk and Alexandra Zaslow.

The team from the baiduhai includes Jeff Carlson, Karen Flax, Phil Jurik, Amanda Kaschube, Robert Loerzel, Brian MacQueen, Claire Malon, Marianne Mather, Todd Panagopoulos, Ellen Przepasniak, Kori Rumore, Kaarin Tisue, Peter Tsai, Jason Wambsgans, Stacey Wescott, Joy White, Michelle Williams and Raquel Zaldivar.

Special thanks to: Sam Bayard and Celyra Workman from Davis Wright Tremaine, Talia Blake,

Shaun Gordon from Weintraub Tobin, Amy Carr, Bryan Clavey and Crystall Recorders Studio, Austin Fast, KSCB Studio in Liberal Kansas, Matt O’Connor, Sky Paley, Oren Rosenbaum and Kristen Meyers from United Talent Agency, Christina Shockley, Miranda Suarez, Eli Sugarman and Eric Vaandering.

A very special thanks to the many journalists who have covered this case over the years, including Joy Bergmann who profiled James Lewis for the Chicago Reader in 2000. And our former baiduhai colleague Bill Mullen who did a deep dive on the original Tylenol task force in 1983.

This series was produced in loving memory of our team member Fernando Faneyte who passed away during the production of this podcast.